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To be honest - I don't know. It was that way when I joined the association. I like the weight of the patents so just before the GREAT Converse shoes were bought out by Nike, there was a sale on the Converse patents - buy one pair - get a pair. In my size they had 8 pair so I bought 4 and got 4. Haven't bought shoes in a long time. I really loved those shoes. Last year tried a pair of Rebok and had major problems with them. I want my Converse back!!!!
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