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Originally Posted by CoachP
Varsity level.
Team A down by one point. I am Coach A.
A1 hits jumper, end of game buzzer sounds as ball is passing thru basket as referee is blowing whistle for a foul on A2.
Ref waives off basket as explained in Fiasco's OP.
In this case, probably at the scorers table, there will be 2 coaches and 2-3 referees. If the referees confer that the basket is not counted, I WILL bring out my rule book. No fanfare, no stomping and snorting, just a simple rule discussion. I will not take it to the local watering hole. If the referees refuse to look at it or take offense, then the AD will be making a phone call.
Which would you prefer? A call from your assignor telling you that you kicked it -or- fix it before you leave?
Again, before I get flamed, my position is for THIS EXACT SITCH ONLY.
Tell me I'm wrong and defend it and I will take it like a man and learn.
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My response to your question CoachP is this...
1. You as a coach (& your opposing coach) would be nowhere near where my partner(s) discuss this play. You (as a coach) do not get to inject your opinion on a rule in this case. You both would stay within the confines of your team bench area. So you would have no chance to pull out your copy of a rule book. Mine stays in the locker room, your's should be in your office.
2a. I would hope that my partner(s) and I would have enough guts to get the call right. Which of course is in the play as you described, is count the team a basket and report the foul. What I'd be questioning is if there is time left on the clock when the foul occurred. If the whistle is before the horn and I have definate knowledge of the time remaining, it's going back on the clock and if we're in the bonus/penalty we're shooting.
2b. If for whatever reason we get the play wrong and cancel the basket and the game is over. You won't be talking to me or my partner(s) either. We are leaving the court and getting to our locker room asap.
3. So to answer your question of if I'd rather fix it or hear about it from my assignor... well my first response is to get it right, however if we don't get it right, I'm going to hear about it from my assignor anyways, so I don't need the double whammy as it were.
Also, IMHO if a coach pulls out a rule book, they are getting a Technical Foul, to me this act is disrespectful (see below). Not that the following applies to you folks stateside, but I'm sure NF & NCAA rules have something similar to the following taken from the 2008 FIBA rules ...
38.1 Rules of conduct
38.1.1 The proper conduct of the game demands the full and loyal cooperation of the members of both teams (players, substitutes, coaches, assistant coaches, excluded players and team followers) with the officials, table officials and commissioner, if present.
38.1.2 Each team shall do its best to secure victory, but this must be done in the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play.
Under definitions it the FIBA book states:
38.3.1 A technical foul is a player non-contact foul of a behavioural nature including, but not limited to:
- Disrespectfully communicating with the officials, the commissioner, the table officials or the opponents.
My 2 cents...