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Old Fri Sep 26, 2008, 12:07pm
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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However...there are many ASA that aren't worth a $hit!!! OPINIONThat you didn't offer??


Why do you bother, Sam. I'm well aware of that and have worked with quite a few. Some from your area. But the discussion is based on the perception that because someone works NCAA, they are the best. It just isn't a fact.

BTW, of course, they are a OPINIONS which is most of what is offered on any message board, including this one.

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Like in baseball, the fact that someone has attained a certain level does not make them the best/more experience or higher than the next guy/gal. It simply means they are the best/more experienced available. Alot of "the best/more experienced available "umpires are not working on the spring weekends?
The point of this comment?

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And there is one thing that some do not realize. ASA considers the rule book part of the package teams and umpires get for their registration. Ummm...yeh!! And you think it is a bargain? So does Amway!!


As opposed to being a leech and expecting everything for nothing?

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The NCAA does not have an umpire's association and I doubt they register the coach/team as an independent entity. They are a conglomerate of educational institutions banded together for the benefit and coordination of athletic programs. Kinda like companies (IBM, General Motors, Microsoft...etc... hiring the best available person to do the job they require?


Actually, EXACTLY like the companies you mentioned. The people they hire are NOT necessarily the BEST, but as you noted, the best AVAILABLE who is willing to do the job they way the COMPANY wants it for the money the company wants to pay. In many cases that involves sucking up to certain people, being a "yes" person, and totally abandoning any level of ethics, morality or loyalty. That's a pretty harsh insinuation about the NCAA folks and your fellow umpires.

Then again, I didn't say it, you did.

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Your right. AmWay or any other pyramid scheme can do the same?? Those at the top get a percentage of the company fees, from there it trickles down...to those who...who generate some type of registration...whether it be team..insurance...umpire...uniform..etc..?? Thats why a $3.00 rule book cost $50-$65.00?


And that would be the organization the umpire voluntarily joins and controls through participating in the associations meetings, votes and elections. You do that right?

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Nothing inherently wrong with it...but lets be forthright in acknowledging it??
Never disavowed any such concern or suggest otherwise. You did that.
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