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Originally posted by stripes
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Originally posted by Brian Watson
We know it is not in the rule, but the coaches are not going to get past the POE's outlines in the state meetings.
I think for th younger guys on this board, it would be unwise to go down that path with a coach.
Even for veteran guys, I think it is slippery to say to a coach "where in the rule is it"?
Obviously the fed uses the term in its interpretations (which take precedence over rule), so we we have to be even more careful in how we explain things.
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How is the use of a commonly understood term like "moving screen" different than one like "over the back?" While I understand that "moving screen" appears in the books in places and "over the back" does not, why is it bad to use these common terms? People understand what they are and what we are talking about. IMO, when we choose to get into semantic discusions, i.e. "there is no such thing as over the back..." we appear combative and unapproachable. I understand that terminology is important, but I have never understood why this is such a big deal.
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So...are you agreeing or disagreeing with me.
Maybe my point wasn't clear. If the fed is going to use the term, I think we should at least acknowledge it and use it to our advantage.
I think it is terrible they used the term, but we have to play with the hand dealt.
I run away from the term "over the back, because it is not proper, but if they put "over the back" in as a POE this year, then I would try explain the proper call in that context as well. I would not ignore it just because there is no a foul listed as "over the back".
I don't think you need to have a 5 minute conversation on these things, but I also think anytime you immediately dismiss a coach, and tell him to only address things by rule, you set your self up for issues later in the game.
Every now and then we have some coaches come in a give us their "expectations" of officials (one of the only useful meetings we have). One of the top issues are refs who ignore or won't professionally respond to their questions. Again, each situation is different and you have to do this in moderation, but they feel a professional courtesy should be extended to explain things when they need it, whether they cite the correct rule or not. In their opinion, they cannot tell their kid to stop doing something, when they (the coach) doesn't know what they are doing wrong. I know I/we all fall into the us vs. them trap at times, but there are cases where they really are just trying to coach. This is tough to do when they are performing their Booby Knight act, but I think we all know when is and is not a good time to discuss things with a coach. With three man becoming more popular it make it easier for us to do that.