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Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck
this is where there is a monumental difference in what is taught at pro schools and expected in pro ball, and what is apparently practiced at amateur levels. Rich's post above is on par with what is taught at the schools. if the argument remains one on one and is not violent (heated is OK, violent is not) then the argument will continue to be one on one until something happens that dictates the partner(s) getting involved. such things generally include:
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Bobby IMO, you canot compare what is taught at PRO School to the amteur level.
PRO ball is on TV for all to see and while Lou Pinella might make a jerk out of himself I do not think the umpires feel as though Lou will take a punch or become violent. Yes he's thrown dirt on the umpire, he's thrown bases etc. but nothing in which the umpires felt was threatening.
In amateur baseball we are dealing with amateur coaches. You do not know what will happen so IMO, in the amateur game it's best for the umpire who is not involved in the discussion to step in as quickly as possible to get the coach to leave.
Also, I cannot speak for college but in HS we do not have any "armed security" at our disposal as do PRO umpires.
In a nutshell in the amateur game if coaches act like the one in the video they should be suspended for a Long time. Also, the "other" partner should step in more quickly then they would in a D1 College game or a PRO game because one is comparing Apples to Oranges.
Pete Booth