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Originally Posted by phansen
On an onside kick with the ball on the tee, the kicker kicks the top of the ball driving the ball directly and immediately off the tee into the ground so it will take a high bounce. Can R fair catch?
I say it is a grounded kick and cannot be fair caught. A 25 yr white hat says because the ball is on the tee and the tee is touching the ground the ball driven immediately into the ground is not grounded because it hasn't left the ground yet, therefore it can be fair caught
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Then what sense does your phrase "into the ground" have? I could see
one circumstance in which the WH would be right: if the kicker "squashed" the ball downwards so that it started traveling upwards as soon as (or before) the foot left the ball -- like a pool masse shot or tiddly winks, or shooting a melon seed. Merely topping the ball so that its top, which wasn't directly in contact with the ground, comes into contact with it, is grounding it. Practically speaking, for the WH to be right, the kicker would have to step on the ball rather than toeing it; and then I'm not sure it would satisfy the definition of "kicked"!
Robert