[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by mu4scott

IMHO calling this play an intentional foul would be a text book example of bad Game Management.

Cool. Can you give me the page number in that text book where it says that?

Originally Posted by mu4scott

I can't even see why you would consider this as intentional. It literally never even into my mind until I read it further down in the thread.

Again, I'm not specifically arguing for the intentional call, I'm just saying that the reasons for calling or not calling it should be based on what the rule states is an intentional foul, not based on "game management". If you tell me it's not an intentional based on the fact it wasn't intended to stop the clock, or it wasn't neutralizing an obvious advantageous position, then I can accept those points because those deal directly with the rules. However, each time you have argued against the intentional foul call, your point is it would only be "bad game management". That's a lousy reason to make or not make a call.

Now, in my example of green #12 now being the ball handler, I might consider this contact to be excessive and warrant the intentional call (due to 4-19-3), hence the feeling some might have about the same call on the screen. I don't feel it warrants an intentional call because the standards are a little different between contact on a ball handler and contact away from the ball.

We both get to the same conclusion, but it appears you're taking a different route to get there ("game management" vs. rules-based). That route could get you in trouble if you follow it in other instances.