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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 10:53pm
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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Originally Posted by wadeintothem
I dont think there is any doubt that NCAA has surpassed ASA in mechanics and their system.
That depends on how you view each assn. mechanics

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The reason for it is simple, ASA designs their mechanic to a lower common denominator of umpire and does little to adjust/allow for adjustment as the umpire advances. They are too rigid in their expectations, to the point of not allowing growth or superior position on a case by case basis.
I agree with the first part and it is an obvious reason. However, I disagree with the part. I have been around a while working some high-level nationals and I can tell you as a fact, the umpires who work their way up have made adjustments and are anything, but robotic. Each have an on-field character of their own and they all still learn.

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NCAA 3 man is superior, especially their considerations of inside/out theory vs rim.
I've worked both and I'll take the I/O though there are limited instances (in the 3+ umpire systems only) where an umpire on the corner stays outside. I had quite a long discussion with HP in Plant City concerning such situations.

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NCAA plate positioning is superior.
IMO, that's laughable as there are obvious drawbacks that you just refuse to see.

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NCAA focus on being smarter and reading the play is superior.
ASA doesn't focus on an umpire using their brain and read a play? I feel sorry for those who go through your training as it sounds you are definitely receiving inferior training compared to what we stress.

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4th dimension is valid when it is given real consideration as a technique on tag plays.
Yeah, another catch phrase that has no meaning. No matter what an umpire does, he is still only going to get a 3-D look at best. And getting such an angle is nothing more than an umpire moving into what s/he believes is the most advantageous look available. Something that all umpiring bodies have been preaching for years.

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Umpire-umpire communication is far superior... especially this year with ASA National Staff disallowing nonbook umpire communication.
If you say so. Other than the IFF, I don't believe there is that much need for special "signals".

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NCAA is MUCH LESS robotic than in years past IMO. ASA allows no individuality with one single exception - called 3K.
Again, I disagree with your view of ASA. Then again, how many different ways can you execute the signal for a routine out or safe call? And what is wrong with having a uniform method of providing signals to communicate the results of an event for those not within earshot?
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