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Old Tue Aug 06, 2002, 04:33pm
bluezebra bluezebra is offline
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Originally posted by insatty
Jim Porter's argument is very persuasive. Just like in football where we have dead-ball fouls, the deception described here deserves a penalty. No football official advances unless he masters dead-ball officiating. And any baseball official would penalize a player that punches a runner during a dead ball. A player or team that deceives the umpire is cheating, which is ground for ejection. An umpire, therefore, should penalize cheating, whether the ball is live or dead.
This is a specious argument. Football and basketball have RULES regarding dead ball fouls. Punching someone during a dead ball (in baseball) is not penalized by a balk or an out. It's an unsportsmanlike act that is penalized by ejection, as in any sport (except pro hockey). No balk, no out penalty on a dead ball.

Where does deceiving the umpire come in during the original post. An ALERT ump knows where the ball is, and WILL NOT put the ball in play.

"No football official advances unless he masters dead-ball officiating." You never worked with some of the referees I have. And besides, ONLY the ref administers penalties.

Bob
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