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Originally Posted by roadking
I guess its the poorly described areas of the rules that confuse me.
Though the runners did not avoid the contact, In either case I dont think the runner where (deliberate) or had the intent of taking the catcher out. I would think the catcher has some responsability for the contact because of her position in front of plate. I wish there was a clear rule about sliding to make the interpatation easier for me. Im just trying to get a clear grasp rules Thanks for help.
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I'm with you, but some stupid lawyer has decided to cause 100X more injuries by making the rule muddy. Read between the lines and in your mind consider it a slide rule... but never say that or a bunch of goofs will say "cant have a slide rule or I'll get sued"
If that runner crashers a catcher with the ball, the R better be sliding or they are out and possibly ejected.
As to catcher positioning, F2 has the ball so thats not the issue. If the runner remains upright and crashes into the catcher, the runner is out.
If that runner slides, the runner can destroy the catcher.. and let the cards land where they may (with the exception of some over USC like cleating to the face or something)