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Originally Posted by turnbucklejones
Can a personal foul occur out of bounds? For example, as many of you probably witnessed, during the NBA playoffs the Spurs blatantly fouled Shaq over and over sending him to the line.
So hypothetically, what would happen if Shaq inbounded the ball and went up the court never stepping inbounds during the possession and the Spurs attempted to foul him. Is that a foul, even though he's not on the playing surface? Is the playing surface/court considered between the lines or the area surrounding the "court?" Is it an intentional foul because he's not on the playing surface? Or is it just a regular foul, assuming it isn't malicious, like we're used to seeing? Or something else?
Thanks for your help.
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[NFHS] (Ignoring the tangential point of remaining OOB after a throwin)
Being OOB doesn't change as much as some people may think/claim. Being OOB doesn't make it impossible to be fouled; it merely precludes Legal Guarding Position. Any foul where the determination of the party responsible for the contact depends on LGP (block/charge) becomes a block....because the player is OOB. The rationale behind this is to prevent a player from using OOB to his advantage in cutting off the path of an opponent. However, no other forms of contact are impacted as they do not depend on LGP. Illegal Use of Hands, Push, Hold, and Handcheck can still all be committed against an OOB opponent. In fact a charge can still be called against the offensive player if LGP is not a factor...stationary defender who was standing OOB...the offense doesn't get a free shot on any player who happens to be OOB (much like the player in the lane with their back to the dribbler who anticipated a rebound).
As for intentional or not, that would be determined based on the act itself without regard to the location. (The only automatic intentional foul that depends on location is fouling the thrower on the OOB side of a throwin plane.)