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Of course not, they have to tag the runner with the ball, all I am saying is they are tagging the runner with the ball if they are touching the mitt that it touching the runner. To me all I am saying is that it doesn't matter if there is one layer of leather between the ball and the runner or two. If the ball is in the mitt and they tag the fielder with the mitt all agree it's an out. In that case there is one layer of leather seperating the ball from the runner. Now if they tag with the glove folded and ball on out side of mitt I am still going to have an out. BUT I will have to see for sure that the ball is TOUCHING the mitt to get an out, any space when there is a tag then i have a safe.
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