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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
Did we see the same play? IMO, Classic baiting by the umpire, yeah the batter said something in a "non show-n up way". Silence him or toss him, like some have said. But to step up remove the mask, get in the guys face and give an axx chewing, IMO is outta line..
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First of all, Beltran did not speak in a "non show-n up way." Where do you get this? He turned his head back to the umpire and looked right at him and began arguing balls and strikes. HE initiated the conversation, not the umpire. When you look back at the umpire and argue, that is showing him up. Players are taught to say their little BS remarks while facing away from the umpire, not to look right at him, making their displeasure obvious to all. He kept it up for a good 10 seconds before Brian had had enough. At that point Brian proceeded to brush the plate, a manuever that most umpires remove their masks to do. Beltran continued to talk sh!t while Brian brushed off the plate. Then like magic, Manuel appeared on the scene, beligerently blocking Brian's pathway.
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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
The manager probably couldn't believe his eyes, and came out, not to argue balls and strikes, but to give a deserved Axx chewing himself, for baiting his player. I reacted the same way when I saw Rungee's antics, told my bride "uh oh, here we go, this guys outta line"...
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The umpire has the right to talk to any player he wants to, especially when that player starts the confrontation, as Beltran clearly did. The manager has no right to come out on the umpire, and certainly not to deliver an "Axx chewing." Do you let coaches chew you out? Wow. You come out on me and try to chew me out, you had better be wearing asbestos underwear, because I'll light ya a$$ up! Brain gave Manuel every chance to stay in the game, and Beltran was still in the game at that point.
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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
"No, or incidental contact", your kidding right? That my friend was a classic chest bump that would get a player fined and suspended in a heart beat.
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Classic? He barely brushed past him as he was about to run him. Manuel is the one who got in his path. What, the umpire is supposed to say excuse me and go around the d-head manager now? Look at the play closely, Manuel stepped right into Runge's path. Like I said, I watched this thing over and over, just to make sure I saw what happened.
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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
The player in return, admitted that he then lost it when the umpire bumped his skipper, said it was by the far the maddest he'd ever been on a ballfield
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Wow, how charitable of the little CSer.
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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
Unbelievable, if this umpire isn't reprimanded, fined, suspended, I'll poop and fall right over backwards in it...wow.
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Get ready to poop, because he didn't do a damn thing out of line. Two clowns got in his business, and he showed great restraint in not running them both sooner.
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Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike
I think Rungee fell into the dark abyss every umpire fights and strives to keep out of. IMO an umpire must maintain a higher standard than what I saw.
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Wow, I need some of what you're smokin'.
