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Old Sun Jul 28, 2002, 08:35am
Self Self is offline
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Rule book not all incompassing

As I have mentioned in other discussions, don't want to bring them up or we will have another 50 pages...haha. The rule book does have some blank spaces in it. That is where our judgement must come into play.I beleive that this is one of them. The rule & cases below all show live ball is flagrant/personal dead ball is flagrant/techincal.

DEAD BALL:
Rule 4-19-4, Techincal involves DEAD ball contact.
Rule 4-19-5c, Technical on contact while ball is DEAD.
CB, 10-4-4sitD, Flagrant technical while ball is DEAD.
CB4-19-7sitAA, (b) DEAD ball double techincal.
CB4-18-2, Taunting DEAD ball deemed fighting, flagrant technical.

LIVE BALL:
Rule 4-19-1, personal foul, contact during LIVE ball.
CB, 10-4-4sitA, Flagrant personal while ball is LIVE.
CB, 10-4-4sitb, Flagrant personal while ball is LIVE.
CB, 4-19-12sit, references case book 10-4-4 as FLagrant personal while ball is LIVE.
CB4-19-7sitA, (a) LIVE ball double personal.

EXCEPT:
10-3-10, Be charged with fighting.. This is the only one that does not reference fighting in live ball or dead ball. It just references fighting... All others reference live ball fighting as Flagrant personal, and dead ball fighting as flagrant technical. I believe it was either left out by error or was just stating that fighting CAN be a technical and didn't clarify that, to be a technical it must be during a dead ball.

To me there are too many examples of the correct way to call it..........


[Edited by Self on Jul 28th, 2002 at 10:17 AM]
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