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Originally Posted by JefferMC
Because, the OP stated that F6 had control all the way through the tag, then fell over the runner. In your sit, you see F2 with control as the runner arrives, but you're not sure she maintained it through the tag because of all the dust you're waiting to settle. The OP appeared sure that the ball was still in the glove immediately following the tag.
But... I've got one for you. Bases loaded, no outs. Batter hits squib to F1, who eventually picks it up and throws it home. The F2 catches the ball and immediately tries to tag R1 (DMC, but it was 10U) who is arriving at the plate and the ball comes loose. Ball got there first, but the tag attempt was immediate, so I couldn't be 100% sure of control. Give them the force or not?
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uh..
NO.
She dropped the ball.
Hello!?!?
Why is this a question?
Sometimes you cant take this message board stuff to the field. Theory is great discussion, you will learn tons, some of it stays right here, never to the diamond ever.
This convo is one of them situations IMO.
Look,
You have situations where they catch the ball for the FORCE at 1B for the 3rd out and they throw the ball away so quickly as they run off the field.. it almost looks like a drop. Everyone saw it, everyone knows it.. you dont call that safe.. no tie base to the runner, no "she didnt have control"
Thats a out. Thats the call you make.
They catch the ball and are walking away and fall into a gopher hole, tripping, and dropping the ball.
That is an out. It already was an out, but now after the play, she tripped. We know its still an out. You dont change that to safe, thats out.
Some play, any play, were the end result is people in the general vicinity from both teams, a little dust, and a guy in blue thinking "damn these spandax pants are hot those big liars", and a yellow ball on the ground.
That is safe.
Thats the call you make.
You try and sell any real team or coach on "well she had possession at the time of the tag and dropped it immediately after..."
Ha! Thats a hoot.
Safe.