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Originally Posted by just another ref
True, not the same thing, but the plays are similar in that both involve a defender flying at a would-be 3 point shooter. The difference is that Fisher took a poor angle and was, in my opinion, clearly responsible for the contact. Some say the contact was not sufficient to warrant a foul call.
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My position was the contact did not cause and advantage based on what Barry was trying to do. Enough contact is not really my determining factor for fouls.
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Originally Posted by just another ref
Others, including myself, disagree saying that the contact kept him from having any kind of good look at the final shot. From here we spin off in various directions: He should have jumped into the contact........The star (which Barry is not) would have gotten the call....Joey Crawford has issues.......etc.
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Do a YouTube search and the biggest star of all was not getting a lot of "calls" by jumping into people during jump shots. And that star is Kobe Bryant who was on opposite team. Again that "star" issue must not be as prevalent as you claim.
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Originally Posted by just another ref
On the second play it seems that Hamilton took a good angle. He flies at Pierce hoping to distract him, and if Pierce goes straight up, there probably is no contact at all. But Pierce slides over and creates the contact. Hamilton hits the floor, yes, but the ball is in the hoop by now. Was the defender put at a disadvantage? Did the contact help Pierce get the shot off? I don't see how.
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The contact did not help Pierce get the shot off, but you can make a case that Hamilton would not have hit the floor if Pierce did not throw and elbow. If nothing else it was a dirty or rough act. I have no problem with the call. Could you make a case that no call could have been made on this play? Sure you could, but if Hamilton the next opportunity throws an elbow, and then we will look back at this play as the catalyst of that action. And the official will get blamed as usual for not "cleaning up" the game.
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Originally Posted by just another ref
NBA officiating is selective in what is called and not called, and NCAA D1 is heading more and more in that same direction. My question is why? These are the greatest players in the world. Is it asking too much to make a traveling call that you would expect to see made in a middle school game?
If Fisher was in jr. high and made the play that he made, and his team had lost, the jr. high coach would have used that play as an example for years to come. "SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COMMIT YOURSELF AND LEAVE YOUR FEET. YOU GOTTA BE SMARTER THAN THAT, GUYS."
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The fact that you are comparing JH to the NBA says a lot right there. If this was JH and a player did the same thing as Barry, I would not have called a foul. And considering that JH players travel when the look at the ball and competent officials pass on those little technical plays all the time. And if we did call a travel as much as you suggest in a JH game, then every possession would have a turnover.
Peace