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Old Sun Jun 01, 2008, 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Both the Pierce call and the Fisher call are not the same things or the same kind of contact.

Peace

True, not the same thing, but the plays are similar in that both involve a defender flying at a would-be 3 point shooter. The difference is that Fisher took a poor angle and was, in my opinion, clearly responsible for the contact. Some say the contact was not sufficient to warrant a foul call.

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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Barry was not knocked over and did not lose the ball.
Others, including myself, disagree saying that the contact kept him from having any kind of good look at the final shot. From here we spin off in various directions: He should have jumped into the contact........The star (which Barry is not) would have gotten the call....Joey Crawford has issues.......etc.

On the second play it seems that Hamilton took a good angle. He flies at Pierce hoping to distract him, and if Pierce goes straight up, there probably is no contact at all. But Pierce slides over and creates the contact. Hamilton hits the floor, yes, but the ball is in the hoop by now. Was the defender put at a disadvantage? Did the contact help Pierce get the shot off? I don't see how.

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I don't have a clue what criteria is used in the NBA to make ANY foul call.
Me neither.


NBA officiating is selective in what is called and not called, and NCAA D1 is heading more and more in that same direction. My question is why? These are the greatest players in the world. Is it asking too much to make a traveling call that you would expect to see made in a middle school game?
If Fisher was in jr. high and made the play that he made, and his team had lost, the jr. high coach would have used that play as an example for years to come. "SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU COMMIT YOURSELF AND LEAVE YOUR FEET. YOU GOTTA BE SMARTER THAN THAT, GUYS."
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