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Originally Posted by CO ump
I'm not giving the count at 1-0 or 0-1.
If you feel the need to give it after 2 pitches then what stops you from feeling the need to give it after 4? Then good decorum requires you to show it at 3-2. Now you've given the count three times in one at bat. Now that could qualify for a dumb thing.
If you don't want to look like a first grader learning to count on his fingers after every pitch then after 3 and full count is a good rule of thumb.
We've gone 3 pages talking about base umpires and counts.
I think the 3-5 and after dead balls was the first real practical post for newer umps on this thread.
Maybe you should remember that not everyone on the board has been umping for 30 years.
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I remember watching Jim Evans umpire. He gave the count after just about every pitch. Kills your theory.