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Old Sat May 17, 2008, 12:01pm
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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Originally Posted by snorman75
OK, I posted this question a few weeks ago and the closest I got to a answer was "asa changed the rules"

Are you kidding me? No citations, nothing, just I think this is it. Well you should know it does not matter what the you think, it matter what you know and prove.

I have to tell you reading the ASA rules there is no double first base on any plays made on a runner for the defense. Did forget to mention to site my answer on checking with a state's head ASA umpire?

I know I have a real problem with umps that go on feeling, not the rules. I have to assume you all did that with not ONE citation to any rules.

Here is the question again see if you can do any better, or prove me wrong.

" Double first call from foul territory on a runner

OK, fast pitch high school Softball NY ASA rules

No outs runner on first. Pop up to first baseman, caught in foul ground, beats the runner back to first, BUT uses the colored section, not the white, to make the play.
Partner, on the bases, calls her out. First base coach appeals that she can not use colored section. I uses the the rule that the first baseman can use the colored base when the play comes from foul territory.

Well I changed my mind after reading the rules, 8.2.M.4 which uses the words batter-runner not runner.

The question is in 8.2.M.7 that states both sections of first can be used in a tag up. Does this mean offensively and defensively or just offensively as I read it?

Let me know what you all think.

Thanks"
Okay

Rule 1. Appeal Play
Rule 2.3.H
Rule 8.2.M
Rule 8.7.F and subsequent effect
RS #1 Appeals

Clinic Guide

Double Base.B.4:

After the batter-runner reaches first base, both the batter-runner and fielder can use either color of the base for any defensive or offensive play.

Don't get hung up on batter-runner v. runner. The defense may use the enter base for any play on a runner subsequent to the BR reaching 1st base or being retired.

Hope that helps.
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