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Originally Posted by WestMichBlue
Sit 1: R1 coming home, F2 blocking the plate, play goes to 3B. F2, watching play, fails to move and R1 knocks her down in attempt to reach plate. (Not flagrant or malicious.)
Sit 2: F4 is set in baseline; R1 is stealing and runs into F4.
In both cases, we signal obstruction. But then what? Both ASA Crash Rule and NFHS slide or avoid illegal contact discuss a defender in the act of making a play on the runner. That is not true in my situations.
Can you give me a rule, interpretation, or case play in either code to support calling the runner out? If not, when do the basepaths become shooting galleries?
WMB
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Both situations: If contact is unavoidable (ie., F2 steps in at the last second), then I have nothing on R1. If contact is avoidable, I've got USC. I'll still count the run in sitch 1, because the ejection is coming after the play's over (though many of you know how I feel about letting a runner score after USC).
OBS does not give a runner a chance to give a free shot. If I've got OBS, I've got that runner protected from being put out, and I'll award the base she would've reached. Therefore, there's absolutely NO reason for contact if it's avoidable. Unfortunately, I've heard some coaches teach the exact opposite, then wonder why their player is tossed.
If it's adult rec league, I might give the defensive player a "heads up" and advise them not to be in the base path, else they might get inadvertantly creamed.
