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Old Wed May 14, 2008, 10:25am
bob jenkins bob jenkins is offline
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Originally Posted by Illini_Ref
My bad.

I have just been so confused by this. Now I know that many of you, actually most all, say that it shouldn't be confusing. However, I have contacted two separate clinicians in Illinois, from two different parts of the state. They both have said that if a runner misses a base he is forced to and is returning there does NOT need to be a tag. They both reference that the force is still on and that a force out can be obtained by merely touching the base.

Both said that this is not an accidental appeal it is merely satisfying the requirements of a force out.

I would just like to see an actual ruling from the FED saying the runner has to be tagged. Right or wrong, there case book says he does NOT.

I feel like I'm delaying the death of a thread that should die. I just want to get it right. I can understand both arguments. I just have no support provided from the NFHS that says any returning runner has to tagged whether he was forced or not.
For more confusion, compare 8.4.2A with 8.2.3.

Compare your play (8.2.2E) with 8.4.2B.

My take, after all this:

If a runner misses a base to which he is forced, the defense can get a force out by intentionally touching the base before the runner returns (whether or not the runner is attempting to return).

If the runner misses a base to which he is not forced and is attempting to return, the runner must be tagged.

If the runner misses a base to which he is not forced and is not attempting to return, the defense can appeal by intentionally tagging the base.

As a practical matter, I've never seen a missed base be appealed during "unrelaxed" playing action. In play 8.2.2E, the defense will try to tag the runner.
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