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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Say what? 
POE # 2B in THIS year's(2008-09) NFHS rule book states "Regardless of where it happens on the floor, when a player places both hands on a player, it is a foul."
On page 22 of the NCAA rulebook, under the Womens guidelines for Illegal Contact, it states "A foul shall be called when defender contacts the ball handler/dribbler ANYTIME with two hands."
In Appendix III, Section 7 of the NCAA rulebook, the Mens guidelines state "When a defensive player puts two hands on an opponent, it is a personal foul."
All of those statements came verbatim directly out of the respective rule books. Whatinthehell could be any plainer...and clearer...than that? They tell officials exactly how the NCAA Mens and Womens Rules Committees, and the NFHS Rules Committee, want the play called.
Saying that there is no rules basis for something that is clearly stated IN the RULE BOOK is just patently ridiculous imo. |
Let me put it this way. Being in the outskirts of the book and being under the rules (1-10) is very different. This POE is not in the rules portion or in the casebook (which it might end up being). And if the NF wants everyone to be on board and not question their logic, then that might go further than making a POE then taking a phrase from another level (which also makes clear that hand-checking is impeding the progress of a ball handler a foul, not just touching the ball handler). So if you cannot understand that basic distinction, then that is fine with me. And most officials do not even know this place exists on the internet and the other half do not care. So your point of view on this might seem right, but that is not the question most people will ask off this site. And they will wonder where the rules mess with what the POE is asking. And unlike many people here, many do not accept everything that comes from the NF as law or they question their logic in rules making and other issues they decide to put in their books. When I have regular conversations with people that never come to this board, they find a lot of things wrong with the way the NF expects things.
Sorry if I do not accept the way the NF does everything.
Peace