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Old Wed May 07, 2008, 10:22am
DaveASA/FED DaveASA/FED is offline
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Irish,
Go easy there chief. I think what cloverdale had in mind was the part of the LBR that says the BR is committed to 2nd and must continue on to 2nd once she rounds first and makes an attempt to 2nd. Now we know that part of the rule does not apply to this situation as the BR had passed 1st prior to F1 getting the ball in the circle. Granted someone with your years of experience and knowledge knows this like the back of their hand....but it can be seen how someone might have that part of the rule and misapply it to this situation.

Cloverdale,
As I kind of mentioned above and as Dholloway mentioned the committment to 2nd is only if F1 has the ball when BR reaches 1st, after that it does not apply and she has her one stop. Now also as Andy pointed out, if she had an excessive stop (more than reaction time in your judgement) then you could be correct in your call to kill it and call the runner out. Now note she is out for not retreating or advancing (standing still off base) part of the LBR NOT anything to do with reversing direction. Also another note is after you have decided to call the LBR, kill it and don't worry about what F1 does after that....cause by the time you decide to kill it the violation has already occurred. NOW you are correct that the F1 "making a play" on the runner does release them from the LBR momontarly so if you are thinking she better move or...then F1 raises her arm...your clock starts over. But if you are thinking she better more or thats too long then F1 raises her arm...you have to kill it and call her out. Offensive coach conversation will be "coach I was killing it as F1 was lifting her arm, your runner had violated the rule prior to her making a play"
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