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Originally Posted by UMP25
Bob,
We had this same "debate" during our NCAA meetings in Cleveland this year. I vehemently disagreed that the base ump should make a call, then call time, then consult, then change the call. How could anyone alive possibly believe this is better than immediately going to your partner for help BEFORE making a call and getting one, fluid call?
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Was the question of multiple runners brought up?
R1/R2 2 outs 3-2 count
That means runners off with the pitch. You are in "C" B1 hits ball in the hole between 1st and second. F4 makes a nice play but his throw causes F3 to stretch.
You in "C" make the out call. R1 is almost to third base and R2 is about to score. If B1 would have ruled safe, R2 would have easily scored and R1 easiley to third base. Upon hearing the OUT call, the runners head back to their respective dugouts and get ready for the next inning.
Now the OM comes out and asks you to check with your partner and as outlined above, the following takes place.
You check with the PU and the PU says that F3's foot was CLEARLY off the bag but since it was not his call initilaly said nothing (and rightly so) until asked.
Now the call is changed. What do you do with the R1/R2?
Another twist R2 was a slow runner, and would have been a dead-duck at the plate had the BU ruled safe but because it was out number 3. F3 simply headed back to his dug-out.
That's why I agree the proper mechanic should be
If you as BU are unsure ask your partner immediately so that the flow of the game is not interrupted.
It's very difficult to change calls "after the fact" when we have multiple runners.
If we go by MLB it appears that whenever a call effecting multiple runners is indeeed changed, then the ball is retro-actively dead at the point of the mis-application or blown call.
Pete Booth