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Old Mon Jul 08, 2002, 07:32pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
1)Crew,by definition(both in NCAA and Fed rules) you cannot give out a technical foul of any type in this case because the ball is alive.You can only call it a T if the ball is dead.Even if you call it fighting,the rules say it is a flagrant personal foul.It can only be a personal foul of some type,never technical.
2)As for the second question,the doubts that you have are exactly some of the doubts that I had when reading the original sitch.I kept in mind that this was a summer league,rec type of game,not regular season.I think it's kinda tough to answer these types of questions without actually being there.You don't really know if the game had been rough and needed to be cleaned up,if the 2 ballplayers had had something going for a while or if they were buds messing around,how much time was left-which can be a factor(only a minute in this case),how serious the league was on incidents like this,how other guys have been calling this particular league(tight or loose),etc.,etc.I think what I'm trying to say is that I absolutely hate second-guessing other officials in cases like this without actually being there.Myself,I might call ANY of the first three(never the 4th),and hope it does the job for that particular game.I might even second-guess myself later on for the particular choice I made,though.I know this may sound wishy-washy as hell,but it's about the best answer that I can give you.
In a regular game,he's gone!
It is an interesting scenario.
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1)Crew,by definition(both in NCAA and Fed rules) you cannot give out a technical foul of any type in this case because the ball is alive.

i disagree, taunting technical fouls can be called during a live ball. (ie-coach yelling profanities)
Section 5. Direct Technical Fouls for Unsporting Player Conduct
Unsporting tactics of players include, but are not limited to, the follow-ing:
Art. 1. Disrespectfully addressing or contacting an official or gesturing in such a manner as to indicate resentment.
Art. 2. Using profanity or vulgarity; taunting, baiting or ridiculing another player or bench personnel; or pointing a finger at or making obscene gestures toward another player or bench personnel.

by rule this action can be judged as a taunt. like a player verbally assaulting a player can be issued a technical while the ball is in play.
i am not disagreeing with what you would call in a real game situation, from what you posted all decisions seem legit.
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