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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
I don't see this logic.
It takes maybe a quarter of second for the ball to go from one player to another when they are close. And the way you word this, it looks as if you'd call a 5 second violation if the actual throwin pass hasn't touched an inbounds player before you hit 5.
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he said he was
ON 3 when A1
passed to A2 out of bounds - how close do you think they are? 10 feet? 15 feet? 20 feet? I coached boys varsity for ten years before picking up a whistle and the way we taught this play is this:
Reff hands A1 the ball, A1 immediately sprints to a corner with the ball, A2 steps completely out of bounds in the middle of the court under the basket, A1 throws to A2 and then steps across the end line, A1 then cuts directly in front of A2 in a diagonal line clearing the defender, A2 inbounds to A1. I have seen teams run it where they keep A1 with the ball in the middle and A2 goes out of bounds in the corner, A1 throws it to A2 and the steps in. Under this scenario, when A1 steps in to receive the inbounds from A2 (who is standing OOB in the corner) A1's diagonal cut takes him towards the sideline to catch the inbounds from A2 and that is usually bad when being trapped.
so if the reff was
ON 3 when the ball was thrown to A2 (starting the sequence), how do you possibly think that A1 could throw the ball 15-20 feet in the air, A2 could catch it and make a return pass to A1 in
LESS than 2 seconds? - remember he said he was
ON 3 when A1 made the pass to A2. I don't think it is even remotely possible to execute that play in less than 2 seconds. especially considering the fact that these were mere 6th graders.
Anyway the 5 second count aspect is NOT what confused him, he didnt know the rule about the double pass on a made basket. That being said, if he had known the rule he should have easily had a 5 second violation because in this instance A1 started the double pass play way TOO LATE in the 5 second count. that was the only point I was trying to make here.