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Originally Posted by Ref in PA
That is a matter of judgement by the ref.
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I was going by what the tape shows. Purely an objective statement.
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Originally Posted by Ref in PA
The ref will have to sort the sequence of when the foul occurred in relationship to the play on the floor. I will not deny there seems to be an argument for you case, however, by the time the signal is started by the ref, the shooter is clearly in the act. In fact, the shot is away before the ref completes the signal.
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Who cares when the signal is given? That's not the determining factor. It's when the act occurs.