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Originally Posted by JRutledge
And folks like me can call you on that BS. Because that is all it is, BS.
Do you have any studies that prove that? Because I will keep saying this, Benito Santiago was using steroids and failed a drug test. If you look at his stats throughout his career, he probably never hit more than 20 HRs during any year. When he left MLB, he barely hit 10 home runs. And that is just one example. Maybe you need to look at the list of players that actually tested positive for steroids and see how minimal their numbers were.
Have you ever heard of Steve Carlton and Nolan Ryan? Ryan pitched his last no-hitter in his 40s. And I guess you have never heard of Randy Johnson or even Curt Schilling. Both pitchers are in their 40s and had success even in their early 40s. Also Clemens had health problems this year and did not start every time he had the ball. Clemens also the last two seasons did not pitch in spring training nor did he pitch a full season the last two years as well. Also Clemens' velocity has gone down for several years. The thing that made him effective is the fact he would pitch inside and developed another pitch he did not have in his early years. Not much different than Greg Maddox who also is in his 40s and knows where to put the ball and is relatively effective despite losing movement and velocity off his pitches.
My point is that you have to do better than read what the media tells you. I have no idea if Clemens used, but there are people in recent history that we can point towards and see similar success if you know your history.
Someone always told me, in order to know your history; you must know your past. If you knew baseball history, you would know that there are similar players with similar success as Clemens. And you would also know that there are many more examples of players that tested positive, that were journey men at best in baseball and were not even close to breaking records. And everything from medical technology has helped prolong the careers of many players during the current times. Just look at someone that would have had knee surgery in the 60s and how their career would be almost over, to now when someone has major knee surgery, they might be back in a few months to play again.
Peace
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Nolan Ryan was a freak of nature, and he had an incredible work ethic along with incredible mechanics. Steve Carlton was much the same and they played and retired in what the 80's.
Randy Johnson is much like Ryan, a freak of nature, but still hasn't been able to maintain much in the last five years.
Shilling and Clemens have made it as far as they have because much like Ryan they have great mechanics and location.
But Ryan and Shilling both tailed off tremendously after the age of 40. Don't have the stats but Roger Clemens had one of his best years at 40. Shilling has struggled tremendously the last few years and his performance last season was not much to write about.
So mechanics help longevity, but the help of steroids has been proven to heal the body faster, thus allowing the user to operate at a high level of performance each time out compared to the person who does not take them.
Thanks
David