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Originally Posted by JRutledge
You cannot have it both ways without someone pulling your card. The case that many people made in the media was the actions of how Bonds defended himself. When another person takes another route, you cannot cry foul claim "they must be guilty" if you do not have any more evidence than you had before.
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Sure you can. This is the court of public opinion not state or federal criminal court.
The media and public can have it as many ways as they want
The 'evidence' thus far presented to the public has undeniably convicted ol Roger and Barry as well as OJ
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
And honestly I have yet to see the usage of steroids prove someone was a better player.
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It doesn't improve their natural talent, it just makes them stronger.
A player not on the juice who hits 30 hr and 35 warning track outs in a year goes on the juice and now hits 38 hrs, 5 doubles off the wall and 22 warning track outs has just become a 'better player' by virtue of added strength. His ability to identify pitches, anticipate how he will be pitched, hand eye coordination and swing mechanics, all necessary talents to play in MLB, has not been affected but his added strength and increased durability makes a big difference.
If you don't see this you need to open your eyes.
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Clemens during this period his velocity did not go up, he did not change drastically in size (which is suppose to be some "real evidence") and he did not start winning games (which pitchers do not have all the control over) and he did not start pitching more innings. So if Clemens used, a lot of holes in the argument that was used against Bonds are present.
Peace
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How old is Clemens? 42 I think.
How many 42 year old pitchers not on the juice are still in the game?
Not many
Maybe because:
Most 42 year old power pitchers have lost significant speed, subject to arm problems, pitch many less innings and don't have near as good a winning % as they did in their prime.
The fact that Roger has stayed consistent in these areas despite his age is just one more reason to believe he's guilty