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Originally Posted by goldenwings68
Rule 7, section 2, Art 5b--states "...A player in the game under the exception MUST assume an INITIAL POSITION on his LOS between the ends and remain an ineligible forward-pass receiver during the down unless the pass is touched by B.
To me, an initial position would be after breaking the huddle, the players in under the exception, would immediately go take a position on the line of scrimmage---but according to the way this system works, after breaking the huddle, one player goes over the ball (the center, and the rest spread out and set behind the LOS and then shift into whatever play or formation they will use for the concerned play-----
To me, their initial position, was not on their LOS, but behind the LOS--thus, breaking the exception rule---
Comments, observations, agreements, disagreements???????!!!!!??
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I think it's pretty simple: that after the ball is RFP, any player who assumes a set position legally on the line is in an "initial" position on the line, and remains so until s/he shifts or becomes legally a back in motion or until the ball becomes live or no longer RFP. The player may or may not remain a lineman while or after moving to a position other than the "initial" one. When the ball is put in play the position each player came from may or may not have been hir "initial" one.
So let's say they don't huddle. When the ref whistles RFP, some of them are milling around, and some of them are set. We don't know who of A is legally on their line (meaning that none of them are) until the snapper assumes a position with the ball. They don't all have to be positioned at the same time, so any time one sets "on the line", they get a mental tag. One of the things to note is whether they're on either end of the line, regardless of whether there are 7 yet on the line. The snapper might be for a time the only player on the line, and the snapper is then on the end of the line. Which end? Both! Obviously you need to have at least 3 simultaneously on the line for any of them to be "between the ends".
Robert