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Originally Posted by Beemer
No way Jose, disagreed. Your telling me that if I push a player on purpose after a whistle, that is NOT illegal because I didn't gain an advantage? It is illegal, and no advantage was had.
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Yes. And if you do not believe me, read 4-27.
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Originally Posted by Beemer
Also, if I set a screen in which I hold you, or push you off your position, and the ball handler that you are guarding is 10 feet away standing there, running out the clock, I say thats illegal. Depending on the severity I would/wouldn't call it. But no advantage is gained. Illegal = no advantage necessary.
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Well based on what you just said, I would contend that you could have an advantage.
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Originally Posted by Beemer
I'd love to hear others opinions on this, I still say there is such thing as illegal contact without creating or losing an advantage. The two things are not one in the same, and thats why the term 'no call' is appropriate. I contend that if what JRutledge says is true, then the term 'no call' is inappropriate.
But hey, me being wrong isn't be a first, and you can bet your mortgage it won't be the last.
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It is great to have opinions, but what you said is not how the rules read. And having said all of that, some will interpret the rules differently based on many factors. What I am telling you is the rules do not consider contact illegal unless there is an advantage created. And that involves judgment of course and even the severity of the contact does not make the action illegal. Once again, read 4-27 and come back to the site and tell me where your rules support for your statement lies.
Peace