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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
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She did not strike, punch, or kick her. She shoved her. So what does that have to do with anything she made contact and by Fed guidelines that is fighting. So, I guess if she attempted to strike, punch or kick her and did not make contact that would be ok too?
Fighting is a flagrant act and can occur when the ball is dead or live. Fighting includes, but is not limited to combative acts. A Shove is a combative act.
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Rook, you won't get one knowledgeable official on this forum to agree with you. That should tell you something.
A push by itself is not considered "fighting" unless an opponent
retaliates to that push
by fighting. That's rule 4-18-2. If there was no retaliation, but you felt that the push was flagrant in nature, you penalize it as a flagrant personal or a flagrant technical foul(depending on whether the ball was dead or not) under rule 4-19-4.
You not only have to know the rules definitions; you have to understand them to apply them properly.