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Originally Posted by Blue37
My intent was not to single Ward out. It was to find out if his conduct that game was usual or unusual. I like or dislike players based on how they act, on and off the field. Based on his actions that game, I found myself disliking him, but wanted to give him a second chance if it was out of character, and I will do so based on Bob M.'s reply.
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Who you like is up to you. I am not trying to convince you to like anyone. So if you do not like the actions of Ward that is a personal thing.
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Originally Posted by Blue37
As I mentioned in my first post, the actions that made me ask were physical in nature. It had nothing to do with talking trash. Perhaps we have a different definition of thug. Mine requires physical action. Talking trash does not make someone a thug. In my opinion, continually initiating unnecessary physical contact (even if it is not illegal) does. Continually getting in trouble (Adam Jones assaulting yet another woman) does.
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I do not know how we can have a different definition, when the definition of a thug is very clear. A thug is a person that is criminal and violent. Everything you suggested that Ward did was neither criminal nor violent. And certainly was not considered illegal by the rules of the game where he was penalized (at least not in your description). What Pacman Jones is accused of fits that description because he has been involved or accused of criminal activity and the incidents have been violent. Hitting a woman in a club would fit that description. When you use words like that you cannot change the meaning because you think it should have a different meaning.
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Originally Posted by Blue37
I have not seen Brady do these things, but I have seen very few of his games and it is easy to keep your composure when you win all the time. You are on the mark with the other two. I have seen Rivers twice and my dislike for him is growing. Hearing people talk who knew him during his college days, they are amazed he has been able to keep it under wraps as long as he has. Favre is not one of my favorites.
(edited to correct spelling error)
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Brady got in the face of another Pittsburgh Steeler after that Steeler ran his mouth about beating the Patriots before the two teams met in about week 14. Brady on more than one occasion got into the face of this player after scoring a couple of TDs at the expense of this Steeler defensive back. And Brady even afterwards talked about it in the press conference. Rivers talked to a fan after the game last week and he was not even on the field. Rivers even was jawing with fans as he was going off the field and into the locker room to get his knee checked out (and he never played another minute in the game). I just find it odd that you created a thread about Ward doing this, but not these other individuals. And to use a word like Thug is a bit much in my way of thinking. And that is the main reason I responded. Because if Ward is a thug, then these much more high profile situations the word applies to Brady, Rivers and Farve. But for some reason you did not accuse them of that kind of behavior or used a word that I frankly find interesting considering that no one in the media has even made an issue out of this.
Peace