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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Yup, You sureashell got that right. Your post above has got absolutely dick-all to do with what I've been saying.
Let me say it again- for the last time. There is NO advantage for any official to know when a player has four fouls. The same mistake can be made by the scorer at that point as well as when the player hits five fouls. If you call that "game awareness", then tell me what good that "game awareness" information is to you. I asked for anybody to give me a reasonable reason if they think that there is an advantage to knowing when a player has four fouls. I'm still waiting for one. And none of your irrelevant gobbledeygook above has got anything at all to do with the question that you're so fervently avoiding either.
If you can't answer that specific question, then yes, you should move on.
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I think the problem here is I'm not coming at the topic form a high school, junior varsity or middle school mentality. I'm coming at it form a college mentality and above. So if you think it has "NO advantage" then good for you. It is a very big advantage in the leagues I work and saves me a lot of problems. So if you want to use the foul is a foul philosophy and think that not worrying about the coaches and how they might react is the way to go, then good for you. You've been doing this much longer than I have so I'm sure you know a lot more than I. I just know what works for me, what has gotten me hired and what is keeping me working. I was only trying to share that with people here but if what I am saying is not wanted then I will stop. If we don't want to take responsibility for our actions I guess we don't have to. "Coach its not responsibility to know how many fouls your player has. I just call it like I see it and even if I'm wrong its not really my fault, I guess he shouldn't have gotten those other 4 before that one."