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Old Thu Dec 27, 2007, 11:31am
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Agree. You can use the knowledge of knowing that the next foul will put a team in the bonus. But.....the knowledge of whether a player has four fouls is completely different and unrelated. That type of knowledge is useless imo. And I have yet to read anything in this thread that tells me where knowing how many fouls any player has at any particular time has any possible value to an official. Saying "make it a good foul" simply leaves the wrongful impression that previous fouls may not have been "good fouls". I'd rather try to make ALL fouls "good fouls".
JR,

Once again, if it does not work for you that is fine with me. It works well for me and has for years.

I like to know everything I can about the game. It prepares me for all kinds of events and I can answer questions long before they are asked and deal with potential problems long before they take place. If you call two fouls in a row on a certain player, the reaction is very likely going to be over the top with many coaches. I also like to know what kind of players are on the floor, so we can focus on what they try to do and what they will take them out of their game when you call certain things. For example, I am working in a tournament with a team I have seen several times. The team is from Chicago and they have a freshman that is considered the best in the state (not my standards, but that is what the media says). Not only did this kid foul out from what I remember, but we have to stay on top of the team setting many illegal screens and causing possible off-ball illegal contact. This team was also by far the better team and it was a focus of our crew not to let them just manhandle the less talented team. The coach of this team is one of the most class guys I have ever been around and he clearly keeps things in perspective and never complained, but he did ask a couple of questions about their aggressiveness. If that had been another coach, they might have flipped their lid or accused the crew of calling things that would take them out of their game. I would like to know that so I have an answer for when I or the crew is confronted with that claim or questions about the way the game is being called.

If that is not how you officiate the game, then be my guest and do not do it that way. I personally do not care either way. I like to know these things and knowledge does not change how I call the game. I call the game based on the players and adjust to their style when and if necessary, but I do not pass on fouls that need to be called just because we have certain players. I honestly do not know what else to tell you. But to be accused of protecting people is not only a lie, but shows that someone is not reading what is being said and trying to put their own spin on the comments.

I worked a game a week ago where the star sat much of the game because I personally called two very quick fouls on him. Believe me, the coach went nuts. His reaction did not change my game. I just was prepared to deal with his reaction. I really do not know why that is hard to understand?

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