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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 11:25pm
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Killing dogs for sport and hunting wild animals are like comparing apples and automobiles. They are not even remotely similar.
That might be true in your value system, but it is not much different in my value system. Just like all Christians have different beliefs, many animal lovers do to.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Dogs: Domesticated animals, family pets, man's best friend, etc. Not meant to be killed for not performing up to dog fighting standards.
Well in some cultures Dogs would be food. And in other countries or cultures, you cannot kill any animal even if it is a rat. We all do not see dog fighting in the same light. Of course I am not a fan of this, but I was not outraged either. And considering some people get less time or consideration for harming human beings (Leonard Little of the Rams killed a woman and got less time than Vick has and he is still playing football and I do not see the outrage over that fact)

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Hunted animals: Wild animals, not normally associated as pets, license required to hunt them, hunted for sport for centuries, used as food to feed the hunters' family (except trophy hunting, which is just wrong).
Also depending one what animal is involved, you cannot hunt all wild animals either. That is fine if there are different standards, but I find that a little hypocritical based on my values.

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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
If what Vick did was not wrong, why are there laws against it and why is everyone sickened by it? We don't prosecute hunters because they perform a service by thinning out the overpopulated herd. Killing dogs is just cruel.
What is illegal and what is morally wrong are too different things. It is illegal to have possession of drugs and just having possession can send you to jail more than murder or sexually violating children. That just shows from my point of view that our values are out of whack.

Now I am not asking you to agree with my point of view or really trying to debate the issue any further. I just wanted to illustrate how different people with different backgrounds view the same events very differently. And just like you and I might agree on what is right or wrong as it relates to the Mitchell Report, we disagree big time on the Vick situation and dog fighting. And I am a person that owns a dog (or did before I moved out of my parent’s house). And I love dogs and could never see myself doing what Vick did. I was not outraged to the point I would not have bought his jersey or watched his games. I just value human beings more than I do animals and if it is an animal or a human being, I am taking sides with the human being. I tend to get outraged over other things and if Vick got no prison time I would not have cared.

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