[_Bruno_]

i read about the intervening play in the PBUC manual and the jaksa/roder manual.

PBUC :
INTERFERENCE WITH INTERVENING PLAY:

Play: Play at the plate on runner attempting to score; runner is called safe.
A following play is made on the batter runner, and he is called out for interference outside the three foot lane.

Ruling: With less than two out, the run scores and batter runner is out. With two out, the run does not count. The reasoning is that an intervening play occurred before the interference. Runners would return to base last legally touched at time of interference. However, with two out, the runner reached home on a play in which the batter runner was out before he reached first base.

jaksa/roder says :
Bases loaded, no outs. A pitch is batted softly toward the mound, fielded by the pitcher, and thrown badly to the catcher. The catcher, pulled off home plate by the throw, is unable to tag home before throwing to first against the B R. The throw strikes the B R, who is outside the 45 foot running lane and not yet to first base, in the back: the B R is out for his interference, R2 and R1 must return to their TOP base, R3, because of the play against him (an actual throw in an attempt to retire him), is allowed to score.

what is correct ? other runners back to TOP or TOI base ?

and is the intervening play only considered if it is at home plate ? or does it effect the interference rule at any base ?


and here's something even more strange :
" Normally, when a batter-runner makes the third out before reaching first base, no run can score. A routine ground ball to the infield or a squeeze play where no play is made at the plate are good examples. Bur the exception to the rule is when an intervening play takes place.

Let's say the Cardinals have the bases loaded with two outs when J.D. Drew taps to Cubs' pitcher Jon Lieber who throws home for an inning-ending force but Jim Edmonds, the runner on third, is called safe at home. Cubs' catcher Joe Girardi then throws to first to retire Drew for the third out. In the process, the ball hits Drew who is called out for running outside the runner's box the last 45 feet. In this case, Edmonds' run would count even though the batter-runner (Drew) made the third out before reaching first base.

Since the throw home to retire Edmonds was an intervening play and he was safe before Drew was ruled out, Edmonds' run counts. It's an unusual example of "time play" but another aspect of the rule that umpires must deal with."
the run does count, despite the BR beeing out by interference before he reaches 1stbase ????