Thread: 4-44 Article 3
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2007, 10:47am
Scrapper1 Scrapper1 is offline
Lighten up, Francis.
 
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First, I'd like to say that I honestly think you misinterpreted some comments as flippant when they were not at all intended that way. You seemed to think Bob Jenkins was being flippant with his (albeit brief) answer about the lay-up. He was not being flippant. His answer was exactly correct. I think it's possible that it seemed to contain some attitude that it really didn't contain. I sincerely hope you won't resent the comments here.

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Originally Posted by kblehman
I wasn't talking about switching a pivot foot on a layup or drive to the hoop.

My question regarding 4-44-3 involves a player who has either used up his dribble and come to a stop and established a pivot foot, or has not used his dribble but has obviously established a pivot foot.
Second, the traveling principles are exactly the same for those two situations. So your distinction doesn't really make a difference, from a rules perspective.

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In these 2 instances it seems to me that if his left foot is his pivot but he's allowed to walk onto his right foot to get off a shot, he is, in effect, switching his pivot foot without a dribble.
And what Bob and I and others have been trying to clarify is that he is NOT, from a rules perspective, switching his pivot foot.

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But according to 4-44-3 this is legal as long as he releases the ball prior to his original pivot foot landing back on the floor.
And this is exactly WHY he hasn't changed his pivot foot. The restrictions on traveling have to do with what you do with the pivot foot, not the non-pivot foot. You can always lift the pivot foot (with one exception) as long as you release the ball or request time-out before the pivot touches the ground again.

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I've called that step-through move a travel a few times this year and never had it questioned. I've also let it go a few times and heard fans and coaches call for traveling, so I guess I'm not the only one confused by it.
And now, you've entered the world of officiating and you understand that coaches and fans know absolutely NOTHING about the rules 99% of the time.
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