[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I realize that. I've acknowledged that reality several times already in this thread. It's not really my problem, however. It's the problem of any state that is trying to implement a shot clock while otherwise using NFHS rules.

Yep, I agree.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I'm simply taking a situation and applying the NCAA shot clock rule AND the NFHS rule.

One cannot do that and expect a logical outcome. The two were simply not written to fit together. Doing that is equivalent to trying to put a round peg in a square hole.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

No team control + not during a throw-in + held ball = reset the shot clock. That is explicit in the NCAA rules. Throw-in has ended + no player has secured control = no team control. That is explicit in NFHS rules. So what should we now do?

This is exactly the kind of unresolvable paradox that arises when one mixes rule sets.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Ok, but then you have to deliberately set aside either the shot clock rules of the NCAA or the team control rules of the NFHS. I'm not a big fan of deliberately setting aside explicit rules.

Neither am I and I think that this is the main reason why most states don't use a shot clock in HS. If you are stuck in a situation that does, then you have to do your best. I would probably apply the NCAA shot clock rules to shot clock situations and not worry about any conflicts with other HS rules that do not pertain to the shot clock.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Again, I'm not trying to tell anybody how "it has to be". Each state can use whatever shot clock rules it wants to. But my guess is that most states using the shot clock simply say, "use NFHS rules, but apply the NCAA shot clock rules".

Agreed. It is not our place. Each state will make their own decision. It is just unfortunate that some will state as you say without realizing that the two pieces cannot be made to fit into the same puzzle.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In that case, you have to know what the heck the rules are. And it doesn't hurt to go through this kind of exercise ahead of time to figure out just where the two rulesets don't quite mesh.

Preparation is always the key. One should always walk into a situation knowing what to do should such and such occur.

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In any case, I asked for thoughts and I got them. So thank you. I think, however, that I would be justified in resetting the shot clock in the situation that I outlined.

Happy to be your study partner, but I wouldn't reset in that situation. I don't believe that is the intent of the rule.