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Old Wed Oct 24, 2007, 02:41am
Nevadaref Nevadaref is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rainmaker
You have to do that kind of thinking in your head ahead of time. Decide right now that excessive live ball contact is ALWAYS Intentional, NEVER flagrant. Just make that decision. "Violent" is reserved for "beginning of a fight". If it's live ball action that has anything at all to do with the game, it's Intentional, not Flagrant.

See? During a live ball, Flagrant fouls are only for the racial slur/profanity type foul, or something that's really a fight.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Rainmaker, that's completely wrong.

Excessive live ball contact can be either intentional or flagrant. It's a judgment call that is based on the severity of the act.

The fact that the ball is live or not determines whether the foul is personal or technical, except for the exception in 4-19-1NOTE. Whether the ball is live or not is not a factor as to whether a foul is intentional or flagrant.

Flagrant fouls do not have to have anything to do with a fight either. It can be an attempt to injure.