[Suudy]

It has always been my understanding that no foul causes the ball to become dead. This would include kicks. I work NFHS, and this makes sense based upon 2-24-9: "When the ball is loose following an illegal kick, it is treated as a fumble."

What's the case for NCAA and NFL? I saw two quotes from the NCAA rulebook:

6-3-10-b: "A return kick is an illegal kick and a live-ball foul that causes the ball to become dead."
6-3-10-c: "A scrimmage kick beyond the neutral zone is a live-ball foul that causes the ball to become dead."

Are these cases where a foul causes the ball to become dead? Is this only if they become loose? Is it dead at the spot of the illegal kick?