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Old Tue Oct 09, 2007, 10:24am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njdevs00cup
I've got the plate and need some help on this one! I told my partner during pregame I would take the second play in the infield at 3B.

R1 @ 2B, w/ 1 out. Batter hits a ground ball to F6, who looks R1 back to 2B. R1 breaks to third on the throw to F3. F3 catches the wide throw and attempts to make a sweep tag and misses. BU calls the R2 safe. F3 throws to F5, a very close tag out on R1(I made the call). Defensive manager asks BU to ask for help on the tag @1B. BU asks for help and I have the batter safe as well.

My question (after this long winded scenario) is where is the proper position for the plate umpire, when the ball is hit? I came out to the top of the circle to watch for a tag and pivoted toward 3B on the throw.

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Originally Posted by justanotherblue
I think your confusing two different plays here. The umpire schools are teaching you to start up the 3BL with R1. With R2 only, PU only moves up the line 10' max if moving up at all. Then moving to 1BLX. The red book also has it this way. As an advanced mechanic, you can move up into the library and potientially take the play at 3B on R2. If PU isn't taking the play at 3B, and the ball is hit toward the 3BL, he watches the play then moves back to 1BLX. I prefer moving to the point of the plate myself. Looking for the pulled foot/swipe tag, interference on BR, and BU has all plays. 4.6 P39/40 in the red book.
indeed i was confused. the use of "R1" in the original post threw me off. R1 is not at 2B, R1 is called R1 cuz he is at 1B. disregard my entire post. to answer the origianl question (boldface and underlined above in first quote)...PU stays home. as taught at umpire schools, he goes to 1BL extended and watches the action down at 1B and is also responsible for the touch at 3B.

to address the large bold section in the second quote, there is no advanced mechanic that allows the PU to go down and cover on this play. PU stays home. i no longer have any red books as i gave them all away. in your citing of 4.6, does it provide for this advanced mechanic? if it does, it is no longer being taught and will not be in the revised version of the manual.

Last edited by bobbybanaduck; Tue Oct 09, 2007 at 10:28am.
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