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Originally Posted by PaulJak
w_sohl,
Why is he down where the ball contacted the ground? Can you cite a rule for us?
4-2-2-a states: When a runner goes out of bounds, is held so his forward progress is stopped or allows any part of his person other than hand or foot to touch the ground. Exceptions are listed for a holder during a kick.
There are other reasons for the ball to become dead, but they don't deal with a runner provided in this play his helmet doesn't come completely off at the same time he touches the ground with the ball (passes, loose ball, simultaneous possesion, inadvertant whistle)
In this play, no other part of his person has touched the ground, so this remains a live ball until he is down by rule.
Paul
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My bad, this was the rule I was thinking of, but I thought it said when he touches anything other than his hand or foot to the ground he is down. I forgot about the "any part of his person" part...
So to correct myself, a runner touching the ball to the ground is NOT down at that point as no part of his body other than a hand or foot has touched the ground. I am glad that I got involved in this as I would have hated to have an IW in one of my varsity games. I feel like a bafoon now....