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Originally Posted by JRutledge
Please do not try to be overly dramatic. I do not see any umpire getting thrown out if all they did was use a "bad word." Suspended maybe, but not just using a bad word.
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YGTBSM!!! It wasn't just for using a bad word. Where did I
ever say that?
Using a bad word is different from calling someone a F.P.O.S.
I was suspended for what I said I was suspended for (the fan incident). I then posted that if I had said what Winters said, I likely would have been kicked out of my (and Winters') association. I know how my association works, and you had better be on your best behavior on a ball field. I also said I was reprimanded for once saying the word "bullsh!t" in a conversational manner during an argument. Very strict.
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
The previous comment is that you would have been thrown out of an association and now you are saying he should not be fired? Huh?
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Try to keep up here.
I would have likely have been kicked out of
my association for it. MLB obviously works differently. Their mileage apparently varies. I don't think it would be right for Winters to lose his job. I'm not a firedougeddings.com member. I also don't think it was right for me to get the suspension I received in 1991, but that's how the vote came down. Like I said, very strict disciplinarians. A couple enemies on the board didn't help matters.
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Originally Posted by JRutledge
If Bradley did not get hurt and this was a regular ejection, no one would even have made an issue out of this. Since Winters is your friend, why not ask him what was said? I would not be surprised if his side of the story is a little different. Not to say that he did not make any comments that was inappropriate. You are going off about this as if you had some inside information and you do not.
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Bradley got hurt because of Bud Black's two-point take-down/semi-suplex that he applied. I'm not blaming Mike Winters for that. I don't think the fact that Bradley got hurt is what is driving this story at all. It's all about the calling another human being something very foul and nasty. And it is more about a professional umpire saying something that disgusting to a player when he should be rising above such behavior. Words have meaning (a concept which liberals don't ever seem to grasp), and in this case they had repercussions.
I didn't say we were friends. I know him. He knows me. We don't hang out. Got it? Sure his story might be different, but MLB decided his story didn't jibe with what really happened, didn't it? I guess they know what's up.
I'm not "going off" about anything. Now you also are being obtuse (must be contagious). I never said I had any inside information. I have the same information as anyone else does, and that is that Winters said what has been reported.