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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve
Tim was only addressing OP play #1. You are referring to play #2.
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I guess I was, but I was also reading off the catcher at the batters legs to mean it went off his legs, and the title of the thing was batter kicks ball, so in the first sitch I thought it went off the batters legs, and in the second he kicked it with his heel as he was stepping back.