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Originally Posted by ManInBlue
I tend to lean toward the "pitching regs start when he toes the rubber" stance. I've basically got a "don't do that" when signs are given off the rubber, if the need arises..
My main reason for posting, though, is that everyone seems to be highlighting "shall" and that emphasis goes against their argument. In my 9 to 5, I have to comply with ISO standards. ISO has a "list" of "shalls." These are things that will be done, bar none. Any deviation from the "shall" is equal to it not being done. The argument that the rule states "shall be taken from the rubber" implies (in my constantly audited to certain standards mind set) that it "shall not" be done otherwise. Basically, "shall" says it's going to be done this way - any other way is not permitted. And that's the way the auditors judge your compliance. I apply this to our rule sitch the same way. What I mean is that the simple use of the word shall is a statement prohibiting anything other than what follows it.
Sorry, too many audits, too many findings based on verbiage in the standards.
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I was with a company that was on ISO standards as well. Let me equate it to this sitch, so that you properly understand the baseball argument here.
If your ISO standards said, "Before placing an order with a supplier, Form 123 shall be filled out properly and signed by the Associate Manager." Now, say your company, before placing an order with a supplier, routinely runs possible orders by the Associate Manager via email, gets his ok, and then fills out the proper paperwork and places the order with the supplier. Has this company broken the ISO "shall"? No, of course not. Same thing in the baseball situation. the pitcher fulfilled his "Shall"... what he did before that is irrelevant.