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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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BkbBallRef and JR are wrong on this play.
The T made a mistake by sounding his whistle to soon, but the violation does not disappear. A1 gets three to make two (remember that rule in the NBA). The correct procedure is for the T and the L to give the delayed dead ball signal while A1 is shooting his first free throw. If the first free throw is successful then A1 only gets one more free throw. If the first free throw is not, then A1 gets two more free throws.
Bart's rule reference applies to both NCAA Men's/Women's as well as NFHS. Why, there is nothing in either rules codes that differ that would not allow a different interpretation. This logic goes back to when the NBCUSC was replaced by the NFHS and NCAA Rules Committees, and the casebook plays of the NBCUSC was accepted by both Committees. [/B][/QUOTE]Mark,the language above is where we disagree.I am saying that the first actual FT ended with the inadvertant whistle.It was unsuccessful because of the inadvertant whistle.The next FT is the replacement FT for the violation AND unsuccessful FT.You don't penalize the inadvertant whistle by awarding an extra FT for it.That fits the language of CB6.7.5A,I think.The maximum is two shots after the inadvertant whistle(barring further lane violations),not three FT's.The case book play you are looking for is CB9.1.4C.That play is different because AI is on the line for his original FT after the TO,not a replacement FT.The TO doesn't end the first FT,and it is still subject to the B violation.In the first case,the inadvertant whistle ended the first FT.