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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Nash did win the MVP. Tim is also a superstar in the league. Nothing I said was untrue. As for the MVP thing, Nash should have won again.  |
Nash had proper position and was contacted. Those are true facts. He may have started to absorb the contact by moving backwards and he may not have: I came to two conflicting opinions on two different camera angles. If Nash did flop, why didn't the official make the correct call of either only a T for flopping, or an offensive foul for the illegal contact on a player with even-in-the-NBA-LGP,
and a T for flopping? But to bail on that possibility and call a blocking foul, I mean, c'mon.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
If Nash did flop, why didn't the official make the correct call of either only a T for flopping, or an offensive foul for the illegal contact on a player with even-in-the-NBA-LGP, and a T for flopping? But to bail on that possibility and call a blocking foul, I mean, c'mon.
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I would not say those are facts. I would say that is a judgment on your part and my part. I think call was very close and that Nash flopped which may have clouded the way the call was made. Also I do not know the NBA rule, but when is the last time you have seen anyone call a T on a flop at any level? I can speak for myself; I have never in all my years of watching the game or officiating have NEVER seen anyone call a T for this. Even in the year this was a POE or an editorial clarification on the issue, I still never saw a single T for this. And it was not like the contact was fabricated, there was contact. I can just tell you that the philosophy on a play in the NBA when there is a "flop" type of play; this is usually called as a block.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
I dunno the definition of Flagrant in the NBA, but I don't think the player intended to injure Nash, but I do think that the contact was excessive. What does Nash's reaction have to do with anything: he reacted the way any living male would. If there's ever one call that sets in motion an official's exit from a league, I hope that a no-call on a knee to someone's groin would be it. Fix or no fix, at least a foul was called.
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My comment was not about the NBA rule. My comments were about your assertion of what you might call (or feeling that you would hop you had the gonads
) during an NF game.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
To me, Nash had a great line to make a Nash-typical MVP play. Then he was fouled.
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My comment was not about the NBA rule. My comments were about your assertion of what you might call (or feeling that you would hop you had the gonads
) during an NF game.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Because he elevates the success of his team. He puts up amazing numbers, makes everyone around him a better player, and leads the team to a fantastic year.
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Usually MVPs help their team win a championship. He has not even won the Western Conference Finals yet. He did not get past the second round this year and last year he got to the Western Conference Finals for the first time. That is not and MVP to me. Granted he is a great player, but he was not an MVP. If anyone was an MVP this year, it was LeBron.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
There are likely only a few HS players that could make this move.
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Not trying to brag, but I have seen HS players in person handle the ball just as well if not better. They just have not achieved the NBA yet.
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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee
Agreed. Are you saying that this crew was consistent? Consistently bad, I guess. |
I did not see the entire game. Consistency is based more on 10 calls.
And I do not see how any calls helped fix the game. From my understanding, the Spurs fouled more than the Suns did. The Spurs actually play defense. Maybe this is why they win NBA Championships and the Suns are just watching the NBA Finals every year.
Peace