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					Originally Posted by Nevadaref
					
				 You may well be in the minority thinking that this qualifies as VC.  Here is what the LOTG says regarding VC on page 61:
 "He is also guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against a team-mate or any other person."
 
 Did the player use excessive force or brutality against the referee when taking his card?  I seriously doubt it.  Therefore, I'm against citing VC as the reason for the send off.
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 What's the appropriate amount of force against the referee?  IMO, none.  Therefore he used excessive force.  But go with the easiest sell.