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					Originally Posted by Eastshire
					
				 Certainly it is an insulting gesture. I also think any intentional non-friendly contact against the referee should be considered violent, and I don't see a difference between the referee and his cards. | 
	
 You may well be in the minority thinking that this qualifies as VC.  Here is what the LOTG says regarding VC on page 61:
 
"He is also guilty of violent conduct if he uses 
excessive force or brutality against a team-mate or any other person." 
 
Did the player use excessive force or brutality against the referee when taking his card?  I seriously doubt it.  Therefore, I'm against citing VC as the reason for the send off.